But not every HM mule would. Surf and Dive - Water types. with Simple, he gets +2 Defense from Defense Curl, +4 Sp def Amnesia, +4. Flamethrower because of PP, and Amnesia since this is just in-game, where Thunder Wave isn't as useful (but can still be chosen). i got oddish with cut and flash. ago. Nicknamed "Slavelabor" after the Pokemon Abridged Series. Image via The Pokemon Company. It can learn Cut, Fly, Defog, and Rock Smash. Image via The Pokemon Company. Notify me about new: Guides. No explanation or anything, just the same lead up as bidoof, but suddenly it's God Reply. Darkmaster Rannon Thundercats Hoo! Mar 15, 2011. In Pt I used Bidoof/Bibarel and just levelled him up with Rock Smash/Strength/Cut and. So as the title says, do you use HM slaves? There has been a few occasions where I'd use a HM slave . 4. Nidoran (both male and female) are easy enough to get to level 16, good enough to evolve them to Nidorina/Nidor…Gen I, either of the Nidorans or Sandshrew are awesome for HM slaves. creativeme (Topic Creator) 12 years ago #3. These Legendaries are just HM slaves. CakeOfLies 8 years ago #5. Hell Bell - Cures status effects from the whole team. lolbidooflol. We’re working in descending order, meaning Blaine is the “worst” Gen I gym leader, in my opinion. This was the first generation where I decided to try incorporating the HMs into the party rather than using a slave and it turned out pretty nice, adding some flexibility by having another well developed poke, although some with worthless moves. All Grass (and perhaps Steel) types in your party can now cut down trees. Moreover, the important difference is that your core group could actually perform these tasks -- which is more fun, methinks. so any pokemon that can learn fly + 3 other HMs pairs with Bibarel, which is quite an easy pokemon to obtain. And I don't recommend putting Surf on an HM Slave because it's one of the best water moves out there (95 power, 100 accuracy). #11. Where to get it. In Sinnoh, Bidoof all the way man. If you don't, then I would suggest just keeping an HM slave as your last Pokemon. Blaine. Ludicolo can learn six of them - Surf, Waterfall, Dive, Strength, Flash, and Rock Smash. Only needed twice though. However, when faced with a grass-type Pokémon, it quickly becomes useless. Each Hidden Move is found at the same location at the original game, but instead of receiving an HM item, the Hidden Move will be added to the Poketch's Hidden Moves app. One of the worst things about earlier Pokémon games were the Hidden Machines mechanic, where certain moves like Cut or Surf were needed to progress through the game, but were gated by some sort of obstacle. (comes in handy in R/B/Y for facing Articuno if you give it a different fourth move) In the Third Generation games, he's still pretty good, because he can learn: Surf. It learns: Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, Surf (yes). I've never used HM slaves. Jan 4, 2012. Bibarel can learn all. Itsu demo sono egao. I like having one HM slave to hold my crummy moves and the nicer HMs be passed around between my actual team members, but unfortunately I have found that there would appear to be no good HM slaves in gen. HM mules will typically have three or four move slots occupied with field moves, allowing smooth passage through caves, across oceans, or past other. I've never really had an issue with HMs, my parties generally were able to learn all of the moves, and it's not like they were built to be competitive mons to begin with so it was okay to me that they learned them. Generation VII • Generation VIII ( SwSh • BDSP) • Generation IX. P. Crawdaunt is a great HM slave in the Pokemon game series. Essentially, Pelipper is your own personal Uber driver. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. Right now with 4 badges I'm rolling with Level 63 Pikachu Level 41 Mew Level 41 Alakazam Level 31 Alakazam Level 13 Clefairy Level 12 Oddish You can probably guess the two non-contributing factors to my team (hint: its not the two Alakazams). The slave then sits in the 6th slot because you have to have them on your team, not because you want them there. Mew is the obvious choice. Pokémon Yellow. :bidoof: Roserade - Cut. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. But it’s available in every gen 1 game by using in-game methods without requiring a distribution or cheating device. Bibarel can learn all HM's except Fly and Defog. We’re working in descending order, meaning Blaine is the “worst” Gen I gym leader, in my opinion. You can only get him post game so it's kinda of a waste. Best Gen 5 HM Slave? Soronir 12 years ago #1. 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. PP. Add your answer. XP. Just saying the bike has a rotom in it is a massive cop out. • 11 yr. These are the four water type HMs: •Surf- Extremely useful and one of the most important HMs. Flash and Defog are for the weak. I'm curious as to everyone's HM slave/transport Pokemon and which moves they have. it out in Gen 1. answered Nov 28, 2018 by Scizor4lyfe edited Mar 23, 2019 by Scizor4lyfe. All stats of Mew are kept at 1. Guess what Pokémon can learn all of these moves? Yes, Bibarel. That just leaves Flash and Fly. Go with the classic HM slaves, Arceus and Rayquaza. In Generation 1, Slowpoke has a base Special stat of 40. If you can get a couple Mews, they're the best HM slaves you'll ever get. Re: HM Slaves. 5. for a series that tries so f***ing hard to sell you the idea of "pokemon are you friend and both of you help eachother" the removal of this is nonsensical from relying on your ""friends" you go to abusing mindless slaves to clear obstacles/just. 📽️Subscribe here! is the best Pokemon to use as an HM specialist in every Pokemon game (that has HMs)?💸Patreon for exclusive. Instructions: Type in the boxes below to search and click your desired move in the list that appears. I usually play with a Zigzagoon/Lineoon with Cut, Rock Smash, and Strength, and then put the water ones on my water type- I find all the water HMs good in battle. You teach them a bunch of useful tricks instead of combat abilities, and when things get too dangerous, you box them so you can have all your fighters on deck. Most of them can learn Cut, Rock Smash, Strength, and Surf. ago. If I did, my rule would be to catch some Pokémon that can learn it, but they wouldn't be used in battle. r/pokemon • Gen 1 Dark Types. 1. -Henry Louis Mencken. hms. 104. Fly, Surf, and sometimes even Strength are all useful battle moves in the game, so all you need is something that can Cut and Flash. The main reasons being because. For the other HMs get a Wailmer. Water pokemon was pretty much a HM slave with surf, whirlpool, waterfall and dive all existing. Rui_O_Grande_PT • 2 yr. Here’s a list of Pokemon that IMO could make good fits for such a team: Grass: Venusaur, Victreebel (B/Y), Vileplume (R), Exeggutor (requires grinding). Day 82 of fusing every Gen 1 pokemon into one by adding the idea from the top comment. I mainly made this topic to benefit would be searchers when the games come. . If you're looking for someone to use the big four (Cut, Fly, Strength, and Surf), I'm pretty sure your only options are Mew, Dragonite, or Arceus. Type. I know this is from 5 years ago but what the hell why do you use your STARTER as an HM slave. Hidden Machines (HMs) in Black/White. Spore - 100% Sleep. • 11 yr. I usually play with a Zigzagoon/Lineoon with Cut, Rock Smash, and Strength, and then put the water ones on my water type- I find all the water HMs good in. Not sure what pokemon can learn both of those besides Mew. Business, Economics, and Finance. The difference between a TM and an HM is most pronounced in the earlier games in the series, where TMs were single-use items while HMs could be used an unlimited amount of times after they were obtained, and unlike TMs could not be tossed or sold for money. . 01. Rising Badge. ago. BtlMaster. I would never use one as a slave. HM01 has always been Cut. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. Slakoth is an amazing hm slave, its actually quite incredible how many HMs and TMs it can learn. Few pokemon get access to Cut, Fly, and Strength/Rock Smash at the same time, and even fewer can also access Flash or Sweet Scent. Yogi Bear King of Poke Games. 1. Quagsire can learn Rock Smash, Strength, Waterfall, and Surf. Getting a Bidoof to level 15 or catching a Bibarel is cake work. The Japanese name of Cut, いあいぎり Iai Cut, refers to iaido, a. Thanks for posting, Trainer! If you want more Pokémon, why not check out our Official Discord Server for active trades, giveaways, or just a place to talk about pokemon. Board Topics. I just need one pokemon that can use Cut, Fly, and any 2 of the other HMs, and the only 2 pokemon that I have seen that can do this are Dragonite, and Charizard. . Basically, get one of the 3HMers and something else. That was before facing E4 and Cynthia. Cut. #1. jonosaurus • 9 yr. Accepted Answer. In later games, I find Gyrados to be a great HM slave. In Pokemon Black and White, Cut is the only HM move required to complete the main storyline, and even then it does not require frequent use. Cut = Eelektross Strength + Rock Smash = Excadrill Surf + Waterfall = Samurott Flash = LilligantGood HM slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. HM01 (Japanese: ひでんマシン01 Secret Machine 01) is an HM introduced in Generation I. 2. Bibarel is an extremely good HM slave, but he's only found in Gen 4. This page lists all the moves that Slowpoke can learn in Generation 1, which consists of these games: Pokémon Red. New, casual, players introduced in the last few years and played latest games have never experienced hm slaves. Please remember to follow the manual of style and code of conduct at all times. However, I knew that I didn't want to ruin one of my real pokemon with Flash, so I stubbornly bumped my way through Rock tunnel in the dark, every single playthrough (of which, there were many). Right now I've got Strength and Surf on a Herdier and I have a pidove with fly. Gen 6 only; Dex # Nat'l # Name. Can normally be used up to three times. The power, accuracy and other information listed below is as it was in the respective games. 5 3. Swampert: Strength, Surf, Waterfall, Rock Climb. I doubt Rock Climb will remain an HM in HgSs, and Fly is a good-enough move in-game to teach to the physical Flying-type on your team, since there's no risk of an in-game trainer switching to a Rock/Steel/Electric-type and setting up. However, I wonder if HM slaves are allowed. Tropius HM slave that can learn 5 of the 7 including fly. This meme points out the hilarious irony of Swampert's buff build yet weakness to a. as an ex-Serebii Mod playing. But I still use them in battle. Comparing gen 2 to the rest of the games though makes gen 2 seem more like generation 1. The only HM you have to use to complete the game is cut right at the beginning of the game. Zeimma • 9 yr. PP Effect % TM03: Swords Dance--100: 30--A special move that greatly boosts the user's ATTACK power. Cut = Eelektross Strength + Rock Smash = Excadrill Surf + Waterfall = Samurott Flash = LilligantGood HM slaves? Pokemon Black Version DS. The HM slave. That just leaves HM Flash, HM Cut, and HM Fly. Types of pokemon in a nuzlocke #3. I usually don't have an HM slave. And yes I know HM slaves or just swapping pokemon at the PC but both options are a nuisance compared to ride pokemon. Wishcash. Surf. I'm preparing to head to indigo plateau, and I was just wondering what pokemon everyone used as their HM Slaves. My Crystal version Krabby has: Surf. u can find tropius in the great marsh wildley and u should use bibarel ( it can learn every hms except for fly and defog). Strength. is easily the most useful HM slave as it can learn every 5th generation HM except for fly. Insert any pokemon that can learn Fly and Defog (DPP) at the lowest level possible. For Alpha Sapphire, go with Zigzagoon/Linoone. I used Smeargle as my HM slave. As a final point: The “ ‘Grass/Ground/Psychic trio’ + ‘HM Slave’ + ‘Electric+Ice Birb’ team", is a pretty reliable way to complete RBY. Krabby/Kingler are the best HM mules for use throughout the game, as this time, Krabby can be caught with the Old Rod in locations like Route 40. Krabby can learn Cut, Surf, Strength, and Rock Smash. Cut. Hidden Machines (HMs) in FireRed/LeafGreen. Game Freak removed HMs in gen 7 and replaced them with PokéRides. 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. Its catch rate is 25 (3. Header Cell - Column 2. It can learn strength, cut, and rock smash which are the most annoying HMs to have to have. This is the place for most things Pokémon on Reddit—TV… Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit HomeI beat all 16 Gym Leaders and need to train my main Pokemon to beat Red (all upper 50s at the moment). Add a Comment. The game also includes a Mega Evolution, as well as stones that you. wikikiwis 13 years ago #1. Nice, thanks for the heads up. Types of pokemon in a nuzlocke #3. Zigzagoon is also a good HM slave, and he's found in ORAS and XY. Charmeleon - Generation 1 learnset. Generation VII. Pokémon Blue. Also: Dig and thief. Surf and Dive - Water types. Bidoof/Zigzagoon are both available early and work well, while Hawlucha is available a bit later but can learn all the non-water moves. Of the four lines, I like the Furret line the best as a bottom line, though the Bidoof line is better at being HM slaves. Either that or sacrifice a move slot on your main Mons for an HM move. Apr 29, 2013. Gen 2. A HM slave is a pokemon that you have on your team in-game so you dont have to teach HMs to your Pokemon. As the title suggests, post here the Pokemon you find to be good for HM slaves, and for which HMs. Please remember to follow the manual of style and code of conduct at all times. Johto Legends, a Gen 2 Rom hack, removed HM's and has a dedicated Surf system where Lapras will give you a ride on the field by simply interacting with the water. It solves rock smash, dive, waterfall and surf/strenght. Ispamedthis-name • 4 yr. #11. HM Locations. Hidden Machines (HMs) in HeartGold/SoulSilver. Cheats. 4. Personally, in every generation I've caught pokemon during my journey that can learn at least one HM, and bring them out of the box when needed, ex: Pidgey with fly. Where to find the HMs in X/Y. Defog. Business, Economics, and Finance. machamp. The coolest looking HM Slaves for sure though. Gen 1: No need for HM slaves, it's not like anyone learn 4 usable moves anyway in gen 1 >_> Gen 2: A lot of randoms, an Abra for Flash, some Water-type for Whirlpool and something for Cut Gen 3: Zigzagoon in RS and Gyarados in FR Gen 4: Bibarel in DPPt Gyarados and Xatu (needed something whit Fly and Flash to catch Lugia) in SS Gen 5: What do. TM08: Body Slam: 85: 100: 15. Red Blue: Incredibly slow and dopey. 3% with PokéBall, full HP. Capable of learning cut, surf, strength, rock smash, and rock climb, this otherwise useless Pokémon makes for a relatively good HM slave. Zigzagoon/Linoone every time I play gen 3. HM slaves might be helpful for some people, but I like to play differently. The reasoning is that I would never deposit my dearest Dragonite & because of breeding I kinda got attached to my slugma :) 1. HM. •Dive-Only compulsory in Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald. Also, anyone know if I can get a friend code and trade with someone over wi-fi for something that isn't in the Unova Dex. Not worth all that effort for a HM slave. (HM Slave) among the 5th Gen pokemon imo. Friend Code: 0447-6401-4083 Psychic type (forgot what. Haxorus. It has three pairs of legs with the foremost pair forming large pincers. So if you transfer a pokemon from White/Black with an egg move and unlearn it, you can't get it back. In case anyone cares, I did the research myself and came up with the two pokemon I wanted as HM Slaves: Farfetch'd for Fly and Cut, Slowpoke for Flash, Surf, and Strength. One of the key changes in Pokemon is that Game Freak slowly phased out HMs. The abilities of Skarmory are Keen Eye and Sturdy EV yield. Then by replacing them with riding pokemon in Alola. Tyazinzard 14 years ago #19. Not like Gen 4 where you need multiple HM slaves to cut, defog, surf, waterfall, rock smash, strength, and rock climb. i got oddish with cut and flash. ago. The Pokémon can be filtered by ticking the checkboxes. However these HMs are surf and fly, which are the most important for traversing the Hoenn map. Fly is easy enough to allocate to a non-slave Pokémon so that leaves Cut, Strength, Surf, and Waterfall. My personal favorite combo is Charizard + Slowpoke/Slowbro because you get all the HMs, and can also include 2 Digs, Teleport, and Pay Day if wanted. Guess what Pokémon can learn all of these moves? Yes, Bibarel. Good thing Unova never really needed HM slaves, and the HMs you do use a lot are decent in-game AND could be stuck on my team. Tropius: Cut, Fly, Rock Smash, Flash Bibarel: Rock Climb, Whirlpool, Strength, Surf/Waterfall. Tropius and Skarmory can learn Fly, and Rhydon does anything that the rest might not have move slots for. Thus Aerodactly isn't bad: Fly, Rock Smash, strength. 19. So, your Poliwrath (or Poliwhirl, if you want to save your Water Stone) can carry Whirlpool, Rock Smash. It will take a while to get either of these, and its a massize. I try to balance the HMs and TMs on my team. Yes, i know they're old and i'm just now doing this. A New HM System: Have access to all of your favourite HMs without the hassle of carrying HM slaves! As long as your Pokemon can learn an HM, they will be able to use it in the overworld. Bibarel and Tropious are my HM slaves, and they too can learn all the HMs between them. In the core series games. 7. TM & HM Attacks. Pokémon Gen V is the first generation of Pokémon since Gen I not to introduce evolutions to previous Pokémon. Annoyingly, once you get to Kanto you will need at least one HM slave in your party for a few of the gyms, as the entrance to Vermilion Gym is blocked by a cuttable tree, and reaching the volcano where Blaine's gym was relocated requires surf. Walrein. #2. Hawlucha can also learn False Swipe, which is useful for catching things. is everyone worth of. i used him in emerald by acident. Wooper can learn Waterfall, Surf, Whirlpool, and Flash. The rental Pokemon in Gen 7 especially sucked, cause they're random Pokemon that you have no attachment to at all, and you have to wear that ugly gear while doing it. To cover the problem of HM slaves, each save will have a HM slave Mew with the required HM's to complete the game. Do You use HM slaves? Thread starter Typhlosionvsworld; Start date Mar 14, 2011; Status Not open for further replies. Skarmory's Pretty good. Flash is not really needed in Gen 1. Pikachu - Generation 1 learnset. The rotom bike felt boring by comparison as it doesn't really involve any pokemon interaction. I'm very tempted to use my Mew, I just refuse to use an HM on any of my "decent" Pokemon. This is the perfect version of the HM system. In Generations 2-7, Krabby has a base Friendship value of 70. Note: many moves have changed stats over the years. It can learn dive, waterfall and strength. Jothomaster202. About 1 new team member per gym is the best rate to go at I find. Reviews. Crawdaunt is a great HM slave in the Pokemon game series. Mew. Tips and tricks for fourth generation Pokemon games. Basically, unless you want to clog your Pokemon with these shit attacks, you have to carry an HM slave which means you only get five "battling" Pokemon, which is also an annoyance. The Impoleon was a friends starter he gave to me, and I just needed someone for all the Water HMs. Y. 5M subscribers in the pokemon community. Surf and Waterfall are actually decent moves that are special and physical, respectively. Flash (Japanese: フラッシュ Flash) is a non-damaging Normal-type move introduced in Generation I. I don't like having a pokemon on my team with a. This keeps you from having less move slots to choose from. The fungus growing on its back has a large red. Tauros and persian are pretty great in gen 1. The box Legendaries of the past have been defenders of the region. Those would be Skarmory and Tropius at level 1. HM slaves might be helpful for some people, but I like to play differently. In the core series: Generation I • Generation II • Generation III • Generation IV • Generation V • Generation VI. HM slaves are Pokémon that are not used for battling but for completion of the game, or for getting from area to area. A group of Electric-type Pokémon based on rodents, consisting of Pikachu, Raichu (sometimes omitted), Pichu (sometimes omitted), Plusle, Minun, Pachirisu, Emolga, Dedenne, Togedemaru, Morpeko, Pawmi, Pawmo, and Pawmot. This means the perfect HM partner to Sharpedo is Mew, Arceus, Zekrom, Tropius or Skarmory, assuming you want Flash. imgur. I need 2 HM slaves for soul silver. Pokemon Black Version. 10. The rental Pokemon in Gen 7 especially sucked, cause they're random Pokemon that you have no attachment to at all, and you have to wear that ugly gear while doing it. In generation 1, as a small child, the concept of an "HM slave" never occurred to me. •Whirlpool-Pokemon Gold, Silver and Crystal, and HG SS in order to get to Whirlpool. Questions. 2 Ludicolo. Parasect is an orange, insectoid Pokémon that has been completely overtaken by the parasitic mushroom on its back. Are these B/W's biggest flaws? 7 posts, 9/26 10:11AM. No matter what Pokémon I have in my party I always like to have all HM's on me at once so that I'm not restricted in any way during gameplay. Whether a massive boulder impeded the path, or a simple shrub blocked a hole in a fence, HMs taught Pokémon. The only games I've ever used a 6-man team on before are Gen 1, in which the only required HMs are actually not that bad (Surf and Strength, also Cut but it's only required early on, before I've collected all 6 members). Bold indicates a move that gets STAB when used by Charizard. Hidden Machines, or HMs, are items that allow a Pokémon to learn a certain move. Jan 4, 2012. You just need to spread Fly and Cut among the rest of your party. This is another generation 5 Pokémon that isn't especially strong but is somewhat iconic to the region. ago. Bibarel, he/she can know all uneccesary HM moves, i havelike 3 bibarels specifically made to be slaves, but with different combinations of HMs. Well for HG and SS I'm transferring my level 63 and level 100 Linoones with pick-up as HM slaves, made it through HG without Linoone ever having to battle and now all my teaam is early 70's and Linoone is still on Level 63. Same for other HMs: Fly - Flying types (duh) Strength - Normal or Fighting types. An HM slave, then, is a term for a pokemon that is not used for battle but knows one or more of these moves, such that the battle performance of your other 5 pokemon is not diminished by "wasting" one of your 4 attack moves with an HM move (which are generally subpar compared to other, similar, options). This is useful for deciding on an HM Slave - a Pokémon knowing only HM moves, to save all four. HM Slave. Throwback Mode - 23rd April 2014A term used within parts of the fandom to refer to a Pokémon in a Trainer's party that is used for navigational support through the use of field moves —generally those taught by. tropius is also a good hm slave. hms. silver_knux 14 years ago #3. Accuracy. asked Nov 13, 2014 by VaporeonBlue. 231 votes, 84 comments. Finally, let's preferentially select for Pokémon we encounter. com. . ago. Both of these were thankfully fixed in Gen 2. Electabuzz can only be. ago. Acc. History. 7. First, by reducing the number of HM puzzles in Kalos. Starting anew after one year of contemplation. r/pokemon is an unofficial Pokémon fan community. Unfezant is available early and uses Fly very well, while Swanna also gets Surf, which allows it to function as a reliable HM slave. There are portions of ORAS where I actually needed to carry two HM slaves, one of which knew all the "land" HMs like Cut and Strength and the other which knew all. Sharpedo is a very good HM slave because it can learn a majority of HM's and gives you 2x speed while surfing. The difference between a TM and an HM is most pronounced in the earlier games in the series, where TMs were single-use items while HMs could be used an unlimited amount of times after they were obtained, and unlike TMs could not be tossed or sold for money. I take him with those moves; as well as secret power for the bases, and any water type for the 3 water HMs. A striped background indicates a generation in which the move can only be obtained via event or as a special move. I've currently got my HMs spread over a few semi useless 'mons that I had available, but I'm getting to the point now where I want to level up my Larvitar and Extremespeed Dratini to get them E4 ready, which with my 3 far-too-low-level HM. Jan 17, 2010 #1 I'm looking for a Pokemon that will preferably learn Cut and. Right now I've got Strength and Surf on a Herdier and I have a pidove with fly. In Generation 1, Oddish has a base Special stat of 75. 1. Dec 4, 2020. rampardose. I know HMs aren't so important in this Gen but I wonder what you guys use. Apr 7, 2010. Their pre-evolution, Nidoran, can be found in Route 9 with a combined encounter rate of 60%. SANDSHREW has a very dry hide that is extremely tough. Dig can be used to escape from caves. B. Best HM slave is definitely Nidoran (and evolutions). Red Blue: During the. Note: if you are looking for an HM Slave, we also have dedicated HM pages for each game which you may find quicker to use. Outside of battle Main article: Movable boulder → Gallery Trivia. Strength is used by Pokémon to move large boulders to access new areas, find items, or solve puzzles to progress to interesting places. Since Special is one stat, it can take special attacks and attack with high damage itself. You do NOT need to teach HMs in your inventory to a pokemon in order to use them. •Waterfall- Needed to get to Victory Road in most games. In every core series Pokémon game except Pokémon Legends: Arceus, trading is necessary to collect all Pokémon. Because Blaine is the OG Pokémon quiz master. :bidoof: Gyarados - Rock Smash, Waterfall. I got Pokemon blue for. Log in to add games to your lists. . Reply 300zxTwinTurbo •. The way Hidden Machines work now has seen a huge change.